Sid Roth - A Witch Placed Her Image on My Cancerous Tumor
Can a witch cause cancer? Can a witch place her image on a tumor? Yes, and you will see it. Next on this edition of "It's Supernatural"!
Sid Roth: Hello. I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter. I'm here with Joan and Bob Nast. Six million dollars, counterfeit, caught. You look like such a nice couple. What are you doing counterfeiting $6 million?
Bob Nast: Well Sid, I figured if the government could print it and it's not worth anything, I might as well do the same thing.
Sid Roth: Didn't you think you might get caught?
Bob Nast: I didn't even think about getting caught.
Sid Roth: Joan, did you know what he was doing?
Joan Nast: Yes.
Sid Roth: Weren't you worried for him?
Joan Nast: No, because we were hanging around with people that the spirit of greed was upon them. We were hanging around with a lot of people in the Mafia, and wild people, and the spirit of greed had come upon us. And so money meant nothing; it was just - it didn't make us happy.
Sid Roth: But how did you feel when your husband was caught? That's another story.
Joan Nast: Oh that's another story; that's another story. When he got caught, he was facing 60 years in prison.
Sid Roth: Sixty years. I mean, this should have put a little sense inside of you.
Joan Nast: Oh it did.
Bob Nast: I said, "Now what happens if I get caught"? Well I got caught.
Sid Roth: Did you have a nice easy judge?
Bob Nast: No, I had a judge that they called "the hanging judge".
Sid Roth: I thought that was just TV.
Bob Nast: No. He had a handlebar mustache.
Sid Roth: Oh really?
Bob Nast: Oh yes.
Sid Roth: You sure he didn't step off of a western?
Bob Nast: I thought he did. When I looked at him, I said, "Uh-oh, I'm in trouble". Every attorney I knew...
Sid Roth: You're a little light now, but you must have been shaking in your boots.
Bob Nast: I was; I was. I was kind of like oblivious to it. I knew I was going for sentencing. I couldn't imagine me sitting in prison for the rest of my life, but I was looking at 60 years: 20 for manufacturing, 15 for printing, 5 for conspiracy, 15 for selling.
Sid Roth: Okay, the moment of destiny, and it's destiny.
Bob Nast: Yes.
Sid Roth: What did the judge say?
Bob Nast: Well it was a miracle. I'm standing before the judge, and he asked me how I pled; read off the charges, and I told him I pled "Guilty". And he looked down at my - they do an investigative report, and he looked down at my investigative report. And he's looking at it, and he's going through these papers, and all of a sudden he looks up and he said, "Close the book". And it was a book that they had on me - my investigative report - and he says, "I don't know why I'm doing this, but I feel that you suffered enough. I'm going to give you six months in the federal penitentiary of your choosing". I could choose the penitentiary.
Sid Roth: That doesn't compute.
Bob Nast: No.
Sid Roth: This was not a little crime.
Bob Nast: No.
Sid Roth: So that's not too bad. How are you doing during these six months?
Joan Nast: Well I was having a nervous breakdown, but I didn't know it. Our parents - we had - all our parents had died the year before, all in their 50s. When my sister was 25, she died. My daughter was not well, and I didn't like the world; I had many fears. Bob was in my life since I'm 14 years old; we're going together. And when I heard that he was going to be taken out of my life, even though it was six months, I think that's when I went off the deep end, and I just turned more to drugs, more to drinking, more to - I used cocaine every day. I couldn't - I didn't know the Lord; I didn't know God loved me. I had no one to turn to, and hanging around with the people that I hung around with, I didn't have any close friends; he was my only friend, so I felt very alone. So when he went away, I was very suicidal; very suicidal.
Sid Roth: How addicted were you?
Joan Nast: I used cocaine every day; every day.
Sid Roth: That's addicted.
Joan Nast: Yes; every day. I didn't think I could sell a house without it; I didn't think I could be a social person without it. I loved it. I loved the way that it gave me that false security. I loved the way it made me feel.
Sid Roth: Bob, did you have any concern about your wife while you were in prison? Did you know how desperate she was?
Bob Nast: Yes. See, I used to use cocaine a lot also. But I was almost like a weekend warrior. It didn't bother me. I could use it Saturday and Sunday, and you know, party up over the weekend, and then Monday I could just put it away in my drawer and go to work. It didn't affect me. But when everything happened when I was in jail, it took awhile to realize what I had done, and the way I had messed up my life. And I sat there one night; it was about a quarter after nine, and it was - after I was in there for about a month, I used to call Joanie every night and say, "How you doing"? I used to call her collect, and she'd be crying, "What are we going to do? What are we going to do"? I guess the reality hit me. And I fell on my knees, and I cried out to God, and I said, "God, if You're really out there, You've probably heard this a million times before coming from a jailhouse cell".
Sid Roth: It's called jailhouse religion.
Bob Nast: Yeah, exactly. And I said, "Father, You've probably heard this a million times before," I said, "but I promise that I will not do another thing, another wrong thing again, and I'll serve You for the rest of my life, if You'll spare my wife from committing suicide, and if You'll spare my children the embarrassment that I caused them". And I put my head down and I cried. And I'll never forget, when I looked down it was quarter after nine that night, and I didn't think anything happened that night. I just - like just blurted it out; I had to get it off my chest. And the next time I called Joanie, which was the next day, and I called her the next night.
Sid Roth: Joan, what was going on at that same time with you?
Joan Nast: Well the night before that particular night that Bob was praying, I don't remember coming home. I went to a friend's house. A big party; I did drugs. I had three teenagers who never did a thing wrong, thank God. And my 14-year-old daughter had been going to a church at the time, and she begged me every day to come, and I said, "No, I'm not going. I'm not going to church. I'm bad. I'm probably going to hell like everybody else". That was my attitude. And she would beg me. But this particular night that I passed out in the car and on the front lawn, my three children took me in the house; babysat for me. I got up in the middle of the night, broke everything in the house, broke dishes, wrecked the house, did everything. And the next morning she said, "Either you come to church or I'm running away from home". So she dragged me to church.
Sid Roth: How old was she?
Joan Nast: Fourteen.
Sid Roth: Why did you go to church?
Joan Nast: Well because she said if I didn't go to church with her she was going to run away from home, and I couldn't take another loss in my life. She was my only little girl. I had two sons and a little daughter. And she was serious. And she says, "Ma, I'm not gonna watch you kill yourself. With daddy in prison and everybody else in the family dying, I'm not gonna stand by and watch you kill yourself. You're going to church".
Sid Roth: Well how about you? Is everything falling apart around you? Probably not as bad as the Nast's. But something phenomenal happened, and it happened to Joan at the same time it happened to Bob. We'll be right back after this word.
Sid Roth: Hello. I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with the Nast's. I mean, here Bob is in prison because he was counterfeiting $6 million and got caught. His wife is into drugs, and into depression, and she doesn't even want to live anymore. And then at 9:15 p.m. - in prison - there's nothing Bob can do about his wife and family. He's in prison. He's stuck. But he can pray; and he got right with God, and he asked God to take care of his wife. Well Joan, your daughter came in and said to you.
Joan Nast: She said, "If you don't come to church with me I'm running away from home. I'm tired of you using drugs every day, cocaine every day, and hanging out with your wild friends". She said "I'm not gonna watch you kill yourself while daddy's in prison. It's bad enough. You're coming to church". I said, "I don't want to go to church. I know I'm going to hell. I'm very bad. I do bad things. I've been involved". And I said, "I drink too much. I use all these drugs". I said, "I can't go". She said, "If you don't go then I'm running away from home". At that moment, the shock of another loss; after losing my parents, my sister and my great husband here in prison, I couldn't take another loss. So I said, I finally agreed after much arguing. So on December 7 of 1980, she dragged me into this church in Ft. Lauderdale - Abundant Life - and I went in, and that was my night. That was my night. When the pastor said, "Is there anybody here that needs Jesus"? I went, "Huh; might as well give it a shot. I've tried everything money can buy. I've tried cocaine, I've tried every drug out there; Quaaludes, you name it, I tried it", and I said, "I've got nothing to lose. Why don't I give it shot". I didn't know what it meant, but I thought I'll go forward. So I went forward, and when he asked me about Jesus, the first thing he said was, "Do you know that God loves you"? And I went, "No". I never heard it, Sid. No one ever said to that me. How important those words are, to know that God loves you, no matter what you've done, no matter where you are, whether you're in prison or you've killed someone, or done something, or had an abortion; it doesn't matter. God loves you. He might not like what you're doing, but He loves you. So when he said that to me, it something started happening to me inside, and I didn't know what it was. And when he said, "Do you believe that Jesus Christ died for you? Do you believe that Jesus Christ rose from the dead? Do you believe"? I said, "I'm Catholic, so I know all that stuff". So he said, "Well then if you just say a prayer, ask Jesus into your heart. He will forgive you of every sin, and you're guaranteed eternal life". Well that sounded like music to my ears, because I never thought a person like me could make it to Heaven. So I said the prayer with him; I accepted the Lord and at that moment. I can't - I don't even know how to put it into words; that moment was the night that God Himself touched me. I felt the arms of God, of Jesus, around my whole body.
Sid Roth: How did it feel?
Joan Nast: It felt like if I could remember when I was an infant in my mother's arms, and in a nice warm blanket, you know, coming out of a bathtub and snuggling, all powdery, and safe and secure in my mommy's arms, that's how I felt at that moment. And I hadn't felt like that in years of our lifestyle, and I didn't think I could ever feel that again. I actually felt oppression leave, depression leave, fear. Fear - I was afraid of living, and I was afraid if dying.
Sid Roth: What about the addictions?
Joan Nast: Every addiction left me just like that.
Sid Roth: All this instantly.
Joan Nast: Instantly; instantly. To this day, 21 years later, I never had a desire for cocaine again. I never wanted any of the drugs again; nothing. That night, I went home, I poured everything down the drain, got rid of the cocaine, got rid of the Quaaludes, got rid of the liquor. Got rid of - just dumped everything. Got rid of it all.
Sid Roth: That's at 9:15 p.m. Her husband - in prison - says a prayer, and she says a prayer. Their life gets transformed; Bob gets out of prison. Successful builder, everything is going good. They team up with Benny Hinn, and go to his meetings, and act as workers there. And then one meeting a group of witches - I mean real witches - walk into the meeting; and what happened to you?
Joan Nast: It was the first night of the crusade. We were going back to the hotel, and all of a sudden, I became deathly ill; so ill, Bob - he had to carry me.
Bob Nast: Out to a cab.
Joan Nast: To a cab. In the cab, I went, "Something smells like a foul order - damp, and like in a basement, a cellar - it was sickening. And when I get out of the cab, I don't remember much more after that. By the time I got upstairs, all night I stayed on the floor of the bathroom, sick, and I really thought I was dying. And Bob said, "You know, we haven't eaten", because we work hard at the crusades, and you don't take time to eat, so we knew it wasn't food poisoning. And he said, "Joan, this is spiritual". He said, "There's been an attack against you". And a little bit of knowledge will kill you if you don't know about it; and we didn't know that much about it, even though we were warned. So anyway, the next day, next day, next day, I stayed sick. We came back to Florida. Within five days of the night of the crusade, a huge lump popped out on my breast. I went right away to have a mammogram. My doctor said, "Go for a mammogram". The technician took a mammogram. She goes, "Oh my God, you'd better get to a surgeon. You have cancer. And wow, there's a witch on your mammogram"!
Sid Roth: "...a witch on your mammogram"? How could that be?
Joan Nast: Well I don't know how it could be, Sid, but that's what showed up. That's directly from my mammogram.
Sid Roth: That sure looks like a witch to me, and the technician said it was a witch. But look at the situation they're in. A witch caused that cancer to occur. She's desperate now, but what does she do? They want to operate. She said, "No, I'm going to a Benny Hinn campaign". She goes to the campaign. Benny prayed for her, and all the others prayed for her. What happened when he prayed for you?
Joan Nast: Well he didn't touch me. He just started walking towards me, and the power of God came into the room and slammed me to the floor. When they picked me up, I said, "Benny, I know God has healed me. I know it". He said, "Well I'm not God. I can't tell you what to do". I said, "They want to re-operate. They want to go - give me a mastectomy next Monday". He says, "God will give you the peace to know what to do".
Sid Roth: Question.
Joan Nast: Yes.
Sid Roth: When they tested you, did you have any cancer?
Joan Nast: When they - no.
Sid Roth: No.
Joan Nast: When they re-operated on me, I allowed them to.
Bob Nast: The lymph nodes.
Joan Nast: Yes. The surgeon said, "There's no way I can tell if there's cancer in your lymph nodes. I've got to go in and find out for myself even though it appears that -"
Sid Roth: Was there?
Joan Nast: No.
Sid Roth: None in your lymph nodes.
Joan Nast: No.
Sid Roth: Did they remove your breast?
Joan Nast: No. They couldn't find any more cancer.
Sid Roth: How do you like that, witches? Ha! There's more power in the name of Jesus, in the blood of Jesus, than cancer has or any curse has. I am so glad I have intimacy with God. Wait until you find out the miracles that are going on now in their life. We'll be right back after this.
Sid Roth: Hello. I'm Sid Roth your investigative reporter here with the Nast's. Before we find out this great miracle that happened in their life, I want to go to Janie Duvall in the control room. Janie, I mean, that picture is really something of that witch. I mean, that really looks like a witch.
Janie Duvall: When I saw that I thought there was no way someone can just say, oh maybe. I mean, it looks exactly like a witch.
Sid Roth: Who's up next week?
Janie Duvall: A Jewish man named Ira Kellman and this man was struck by lightning. 125 million bolts of electricity hit him and he's alive. But he's had other really incredible miracles happen in his life.
Sid Roth: And I understand when that hit him he was actually in a church speaking a very special scripture that I believe is what protected him.
Janie Duvall: He was talking about Psalm 91, the supernatural protection of God. But Sid, this man has seen even other miracles. He saw a baby that was dead come back to life.
Sid Roth: That's my kind of miracle. Thank you, Janie. Now Bob and Joan, we're going to - you've spent many years now helping children. You have a supernatural compassion. You got to children that are dying in hospitals. And one day you had a vision from God; direction for your life. Tell me about it, Joan.
Joan Nast: Well I was reading in the paper. Being a realtor, I was looking for a condo for my daughter, and I saw that there was five-and-a-half acres for sale not far from where we lived in Ft. Lauderdale, for $400,000. So I said, "Hon, we have to go look at this property". He said, "Why". He said, "Joan, we just lost a ton of money. We have no cash". We had a half-million dollar home and a big boat and that was secure, but we had no cash at this time, especially to buy a $400,000 ranch. So but being the wonderful husband that he is, he said, "All right, let's go look, but we can't buy anything". I said, "Don't worry". We went out to the ranch and it was an old, ugly ranch. There was potholes and Pepto-Bismol pink color, no roof, no porch, no - the fences are torn down, tractors laying around. It was ugly; it was very ugly. And - but as we entered on this long driveway to go up to the house, I'm telling you, it was just like with Peter, when a sheet fell from Heaven. And I looked and I saw hayrides, and I saw miniature horses, and I heard children laughing. And I actually saw wheelchairs, and children getting out of wheelchairs and off stretchers. But I heard laughter, laughter, laughter. And I'm looking to the left and the right, and I'm going, WOW! Now Bob starts getting nervous and he says, "What are you looking at"? And I went, "Oh Bobby, something wonderful is going to happen here". He says, "Joan, we don't have any money". And I said, "I know, but this is wonderful". By the time we got to the top of the driveway there was a man standing there in a black Porsche, handing - what I found out - the owner, he was handing him like $25,000 to buy it that day.
Sid Roth: So it's done. You can't buy it.
Joan Nast: No, but God can. And when He wants something, He will make it happen.
Sid Roth: So what happened?
Joan Nast: Well we get out of the car and he says, "What are you doing? What are you doing"? You know, I mean.
Bob Nast: She keeps me in suspense all the time.
Joan Nast: God didn't talk to him.
Sid Roth: Makes for a good marriage.
Joan Nast: Yeah right, 39 years of it. So I walked directly over to the man and the other man, and I said, "Excuse me, are you the owner"? And he said, "Yes". And I said, "I have a lot of jewelry". And I started taking off all my jewelry and I put it in my hands, and I said, "Excuse me," to the other man. And I said, "Here. I come here in the name of the Lord". I said, "We don't have any money, but we're buying this property. It's going to be called "God's Little Acres" for terminal and seriously ill children, and God's going to do miracles here. So take my jewelry". Well the man didn't have any choice.
Sid Roth: Lady, you got "chutzpah". He's just got, what was it, $25,000 in cash?
Joan Nast: And getting the rest.
Sid Roth: And you give him all your jewelry. Give me a break. What did he say?
Joan Nast: Well the man that was handing him the cash got very angry.
Sid Roth: I can understand.
Joan Nast: He got very upset.
Sid Roth: I can understand.
Joan Nast: The man that was taking the money thought I was nuts.
Sid Roth: I can understand.
Joan Nast: I knew it was God.
Bob Nast: I didn't understand. Joan; And so - and he held my jewelry, and he's saying, "What are you doing? What are you doing"? And I went, "Sshh, it's God; it's God". So now the owner says to the other man, "You can leave now". He said, "Come back tomorrow. She was here first". I wasn't there first. He had the number - a list of people that wanted to buy that property in one week, because you can build anything there. But I said I wanted to make it a ranch for terminal and seriously ill children. He later told me the reason he accepted my jewelry was because he was a rich man all his life, but he never did a thing for a sick child, and all these other developers who had the cash wanted to tear it down and make money with it. When I said that, he thought, "Well maybe I can be a part of helping a sick child", so he held my jewelry. Bobby wanted to kick me. The man didn't know what to do, you know, and he said, "Take your jewelry back". I said, "I really don't want it". All of a sudden it meant nothing to me, and the rest just became miracle after miracle.
Sid Roth: Let's talk about history right now. When someone goes on your property, what is the first thing they feel? Tell me, a real person, what do they feel?
Bob Nast: We had a UPS man delivering a package, and he walked up the driveway.
Sid Roth: How long ago was this?
Bob Nast: Three months.
Sid Roth: Okay.
Bob Nast: He walked up the driveway and he said, "What do I feel on this property? What do I feel on this property"? And Joan said to him, "You feel the power of God on this property". And she said, "You better get right with God, because you turned away from God ten years ago". And the guy started crying, and he accepted the Lord right then and there.
Sid Roth: Tell me one person that was physically healed on your property.
Bob Nast: You tell him about it, Joan.
Joan Nast: Well we had - I think we have a picture of little Richie.
Bob Nast: Richie.
Joan Nast: We've had lots - lots of miracles are happening. Little Richie has been in a wheelchair. He's eight years old, with cerebral palsy, and we have a picture of our little grandbaby who is four years old now. He was three last year. When I said to our grandson, "Joshua, if you lay hands on the sick and say, 'Jesus, fix him,' it will work". So our little grandbaby went over, laid hands on little Richie and said, "Jesus fix him". Well a month ago, they come to our ranch a lot - these people - and little Richie, they came up, they wheeled him up our driveway, which is called Damascus Road, and he went - and all of a sudden the mother says, "Aunt Joan, Uncle Bob, look it"! And little Richie got out of his wheelchair and walked up; and he had never been out of his wheelchair.
Sid Roth: What about the one with bone marrow? Quickly.
Joan Nast: Christopher, eight-years old, he came, and he had a one percent survival chance of cancer of the bone marrow. We asked his parents if it was okay if we could pray. They said "Yes". They weren't sure if they believed, but go ahead. We prayed. The child shook. We knew God was touching him. And I said, they said, "What's happening"? I said, "God's touching your little boy". So I said, "Let us know when something good happens. We call it a praise report". And they said "Okay". Three weeks later we got a praise report on our email. "We took our son to Sloane Kettering Hospital in New York City to see if there was anything they could give him, to slow his dying process". They retested him, and couldn't find a drop of cancer in him.
Sid Roth: Did you hear that? Witches, eat your heart out! Let me tell you, the power of God is so strong right now that whatever you need, when I say the name of Jesus in Hebrew, you are going to be set free, because there is greater power, in the name of Jesus, than cancer, bone marrow problems, heart problems, diabetes, greater - arthritis, greater - here it goes; here it goes. You ready? Get ready to receive. There's a faith transaction. Get ready to receive. One, two, three, Yeshua. Yeshua. Yeshua. Yeshua makes you whole. "Go and sin no more". And I pray, that in the name of Yeshua, God would put His arms around you, just as he did around Joan. I pray that you would feel the comfort and the peace, and the goodness, and the love, and the mercy of Yeshua, the Jewish Messiah. Right now, open your heart up as you've never done before. Experience the reality of God, in the Messiah's name, Yeshua. Amen.